I have the bias of feeling like INFPs are on a higher plane. I won't deny it - if there are different planes, ours fly near the top :) That makes it all the more baffling to me that people who share my personality type exhibit (IMO) the same, frequent poor choices in relationships other types make. At the same time, it makes me feel like my idea of a relationship is abnormal.
First of all, I've noticed that some deep people don't seem to care very much about talking in relationships.
What's the point? I think of relationships as accomplishing something together, maybe in part because I seem unable to accomplish much on my own, and because to do something good for the world is everything to me. If there's little talking, then people wouldn't seem to be contributing to each other's accomplishments.
I hope that someone with a semblance of my personality wouldn't be going for relationships just for sex and other "fun" - getting drunk, for example. I hope I'm not the only person who has never gone out of his way for that kind of fun. There are activities I enjoy with other people, that I hesitate to do without a partner, but I don't miss them so much as to want "someone" just for the sake of activities.
There are INFPs who crave "security" from relationships, maybe to feel like part of a family (poor relations with family of origin), to build a family, maybe even from fear of being alone for just short lengths of time. It's appealing to part of me. But I doubt that many would go for just that. The heart has to be into it.
Could it be easier to introvert (used as a verb) and not miss conversation because it risks criticism and conflict? As likely as I would be to busy myself with my own mission, I think I would feel bored and very lonely if I were with someone and not having deep conversations.
Explain it all to me, please.
First of all, I've noticed that some deep people don't seem to care very much about talking in relationships.
What's the point? I think of relationships as accomplishing something together, maybe in part because I seem unable to accomplish much on my own, and because to do something good for the world is everything to me. If there's little talking, then people wouldn't seem to be contributing to each other's accomplishments.
I hope that someone with a semblance of my personality wouldn't be going for relationships just for sex and other "fun" - getting drunk, for example. I hope I'm not the only person who has never gone out of his way for that kind of fun. There are activities I enjoy with other people, that I hesitate to do without a partner, but I don't miss them so much as to want "someone" just for the sake of activities.
There are INFPs who crave "security" from relationships, maybe to feel like part of a family (poor relations with family of origin), to build a family, maybe even from fear of being alone for just short lengths of time. It's appealing to part of me. But I doubt that many would go for just that. The heart has to be into it.
Could it be easier to introvert (used as a verb) and not miss conversation because it risks criticism and conflict? As likely as I would be to busy myself with my own mission, I think I would feel bored and very lonely if I were with someone and not having deep conversations.
Explain it all to me, please.
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 4:18 PMI <i>definitely</i> know what you mean. At 21, I've actully started "dating" someone for the first time. By that I mean in all (1.5) of my previous relationships I'd developed a deeper connections before anything actually happened. "Having fun" or "just getting to know somebody" isn't enough of a motivation for me to commit or stay interested. I need to share good and bad days, tears and tons of laughs, before anything becomes spectacular.
I'm personally not too hip on things that the general population label "having a good time." I feel most stimulated and caring when I share quirky and fairly intelligent conversations. I can't keep things going if there's nothing there. It's also way too hard to stay with somebody just for comfort or security sake, because I'm always worried about what the other person is investing. I hate to disappoint. Not to mention it's usually understimulating.
I think that's just coding of the INFP. The Introverted Feeling function makes us more motivated towards things that are more <i>deeply</i> important to us.
Sometimes I'm actually slightly envious of people who can go about things much easier, but I guess being deeper (more internally focused) means that if you one day get what you truly want then it's something that you'll <i>truly</i> and <i>deeply</i> want. Even if it means looong and painfully lonely bouts of trial and error.
I actually wonder myself lately if I just have too high of standards... because others seem to be able to be so "casual" about dating and being with other people. What seems to be the "norm" of things just doesn't quite seem right to me. I feel there are just so many deep -and topsoil things that I need to share with another to feel excited in a relationship that it may just never happen. Guess it's worth searching for though, right? -
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 6:10 AMpersonally I can feel attracted to a few guys at the same time with no problem and often do....
but as I get to know them better ..they ususally do not live up to my ideals...
there is no perfect person out there I know. and Im not looking for perfection.. heck Im far from perfect
I can describe some qualities I enjoy but most of the time I just have to feel them...
and it has to last ..it rarely does
then I dissapoint many including myself becasue my enthusiasm goes out the door
and I see the real person as oppose to what initially made me believe I was interested.
it gets worse because then I go through that " can you stop breathing that way " attitude and have to move on.
In order for me to get a deeper connection... It has to be someone who is accepting of my quirks and humor as well as my indecisions and burst of emotional intensity along with my sudden aloofness...
plus meaningful conversations that takes us to an inside look at one another....
If you are honest, warm ,interesting in any way and I trust you ... your generally fine with me..
and there is room for growth....
if Im not contributing to your life or vice a versa I dont see the point....
I truly enjoy real friendships.....and I cant be superficial when it comes to that...
I have two to five people right now that I have managed to stay close to through out many years and thats a ot for me
everyone else fades in and out my life....if there is not enough between us to bond with.
I am social so I can talk to a multitude of people about work , school children, but thats as far as it gets ..
most of the time.. tehn I retreat into my world. -
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 8:37 PMThat's how I am, except for not being social and attracted to many people to begin with. I can see some INFPs seeming superficial, by having to feel strong attraction to idealize someone's personality enough to commit - we take commitment very seriously, I gather. I don't think that works out well in time. Never meeting someone who is good enough doesn't work out well, either, I know :(
With INFPs, who makes the first move? -
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 2:24 AMOh crikey, I've just read all these posts, I soooo belong here!
Let it be known INFP's in Australia feel the same way a lot of the northern hemisphere INFP people feel. LOL.
It's possible we are all gunna fade away!
We are lovely, BUT, how on earth do we find partners, stay with partners?
If we aren't out there mating up and breeding there will be no INFP's left!
A world of judgers left to their own devices.............................................what would the world of judgers be like? Blood and guts everywhere?
Okay so I am a little tongue in check here, but strewth, this thread is so true, so close to the bone....I got halfway through reading the posts and am going, oh yearh...yes, yup...
We are a rare breed....and perhaps declining?
A rare species of part of humanity, do you realise I don't think I even have met another INFP physically, in the real world? At least no one that owns up anyway.
Did I tell y'all how much I love my company! When I get time to myself I can cover 1 million different things and totally, and I mean totally delve into a subject. That is the greatest thing.
That is my "Fun relationship" I think, mind travel and absorbing and learning and figuring- thank goodness partner in life understands I need this...
INFP's rock....................but very quietly. :) -
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:01 AMWhat would a world of judgers be like? We'd make decisions, that's what! ;-) jk, you know I love your INFP patience, of which I have none...
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 11:23 AMI've actually heard that websites, instead of marking us as 1% of the population, have been marking us as something like 3.4% of the population. But that could be just the American population (it's been said it's because of all of the "emos," haha).
I think also that you don't necessarily need INFPs to breed more INFPs. I've known a few INFPs without NF parents.
So rest easy, my friend. ;) -
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Re: "Fun" Relationships
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 11:52 AMI don't think it requires INFP incest, either, lol. However, I wouldn't dismiss the underlying fear. We probably are becoming less common. This week I read a study that provides evidence for the "defective introvert" theory. There is an association between symmetry and extraversion, leading the author(s) to speculate that introversion might be due to developmental stressors. Undernutrition is my guess - we all know that the opposite problem has taken over in much of the Western world. But I also think that it's a mild or moderate effect on a flexible genetic disposition and that some dispositions are less flexible. Anyway, I share the underlying sentiment of feeling left out and lonely. Bah to "fun."
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