I ask because looking back on at my life from now all the way back to babyhood (yes, I remember being a baby :)) I never had any close friends. Every time there is a problem in my life, I am so used to dealing with it on my own, I always find it odd that people actually (gasp!) have someone they can call when the going gets tough.
I have acquainces, divorced, had another long-term relationship, but never a close friend. Is that typical with "us"or am I just the only one?
I have acquainces, divorced, had another long-term relationship, but never a close friend. Is that typical with "us"or am I just the only one?
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Wed, January 4, 2006 - 6:30 AMLetting people get close is a long, scary process for me. But it's something that I keep working on. The close friends I have share this same vulnerability with me.
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Sat, April 14, 2007 - 8:56 PMJust came across this post..interesting...Ive always only had less than a hanful of truly close friends ....I never felt I could be fully understood thus I made it a secret requirement ....that I would only make friends with those that I "felt" understood me and accepted me the way I am..which to me has its quirks so In my mind you had t be a bit quirky or quirky friendly.....(Chuckle). Even now,I have only a few close friends and still find it hard to call them when Im feeling down. I also tend to become dissapointed in those that I considered a friend..somehow my idea of being a friend was not lived up to. crazy isnt it..... but trust is a main factor for my frinships...and no I dont trust that easily but Im learning to be more open. Im very accepting of people but skeptical of their motives. -
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Sun, April 15, 2007 - 3:13 AMWhat interests me more is that you can remember being a baby. I wonder if it's an INFP thing.
My very first memory is of me and my mother in a supermarket. She was going to buy porridge with an orange cover and a smiling baby on it. But I knew I didn't like that taste! But as I couldn't talk, I just started crying really hard.
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Tue, April 17, 2007 - 2:18 PMI'm not saying I'm not "crazy" but why shouldn't trust be a fundamental factor in close relationship? What point is there in "closeness" if there is no real trust? I also have this requirement, and find many so-called friends disappointing in this regard. I also have always tended to be a loner, entertaining and taking care of myself. When hurt or ill I prefer to hide in a dark place and work it out for myself. I hear so many people say they are afraid to die alone. I am more afraid of dying in public, having to be concerned about what others are feeling during my last breaths.
I have at various times had close friendships. I have at various times had none. I keep coming back to the conclusion that I am my closest, best, and most reliable friend.
Legends
I rode far upon a mare of the night
she of high fame and noble descent
snorting displeasure at my feeble attempt
to guide by the stars her unfettered flight.
We ventured to caverns lit by bright vermin.
We enjoyed the charm of enchanting seers.
I held the heart of folk I held dear in a dream
carried lightly in my pocket, far yet too near,
for the fear came upon me
again and again that I might fail, might fall,
might show a crack of desperation
and who could love me now?
Who could find me bare and broken,
hear the words I could not speak,
recite the words that I must hear
to retrace, to find my place,
on back of the sacred mare,
back on my sacrificial journey?
Love becomes too great a luxury.
I must be free to name my price.
I travel the vast reaches of space for you.
I delve into my deepest pain to hold out
painted posies, dripping in consecrated wine.
Where would I not rush in if I could blast the barriers
to bring your treasure, wrapped in shining glory?
Alas, Alack, these treasures I demand in your honor
are not those of your own demand.
Again I face you bent and bowed with empty hand.
I can not face that anymore.
We ride, I astride my plucky equine avatar.
She is, as it has turned, my only friend.
Our adventures become legion, become legend.
I'll not be bringing home that story.
(c) April 11, 2007 Laurie Corzett/libramoon
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"I also tend to become dissapointed in those that I considered a friend..somehow my idea of being a friend was not lived up to. crazy isnt it..... but trust is a main factor for my frinships...and no I dont trust that easily ..."
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Wed, January 4, 2006 - 6:43 AMI've always been pretty much of a loner. As a kid, I'd have one good friend and that would be about all. Now, my husband and I are each other's best friends, and there really is no one else I'm close to except some family and a couple coworkers. -
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Wed, January 4, 2006 - 8:56 AMI learned the hard way that its not good to have your husband/SO as your only good friend. Its nice, but somehow deep down other friends are good too. I just havent gotten to that point yet. Now that I'm single, I have no one. -
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Tue, January 10, 2006 - 1:48 PMThanks for your opinion. -
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Thu, January 12, 2006 - 1:07 AMyes, over the yrs. i have had close friends. and many acquaintenances.
but i am also an e/infp aquarian.
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Mon, January 23, 2006 - 5:48 PMOther kids labeled me a "loner" in my early childhood... I carried it with me until high school.
I started shifting in junior high when a counselor administered the meyers-briggs test and I scored INTP. I wasn't happy with the "I" and decided to change it. By junior year, I scored xNTP.
(Sidebar: quite unintentionally, my personality shifted a few years ago and I now score an NF instead of an NT. I'm not sure why, but I couldn't be happier about it.)
I know some folks believe that real changes in one's temperment can't/don't happen, and all I can say is that they're welcome to their opinion ;-)
Anyway, I have very close friends, and have maintained a network of folks I "can call when the going gets tough" since college.
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Sun, April 15, 2007 - 7:42 AMI have acquaintances, and usually one very close friend at a time. over time my close friends have died, given up on me or moved away. it seems like it takes a long time for me to find friends that I click well with. most often I feel like people don't "get me", even though I have been making progress to open up and share more of me over the years with the people with whom I think can handle it. most of the time, when things get hard, I tend to withdraw and do my own things, like solo hikes or drives, etc... but I'm trying to be more social on on-line social sites, like this, since it seem hard to find good fits (as friends) locally. -
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Sun, April 15, 2007 - 9:37 AMI have, literally, a handful of friends that I have "grown up" with and have know for over thirty years (yeah, guss that dates me). I feel quite blessed having these friends in my life as time can pass bewteen us and when we reconnect, it's as if no time has passed at all! They know me, I know them and there are no pretenses.
Acquaintances, over time, can become friends and over more time, close friends. These days though, with everyone running the rat race, the process of "friends" becoming "close friends" is becoming more of a challenge. It seems no one has time anymore time to dedicate to nurturing and supporting deeply connecting relationships.
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Mon, April 16, 2007 - 7:14 AMit does seem like it's becoming harder and harder to find meaningful friendships when people are busier and busier in the rat race. even with my long distance friends I find it harder and harder to communicate via email/etc as they become busier and busier with keeping up with SPAM and work related on-line activities and even though they are more connected (i.e. blackberries, etc...) it seems like the quality of communication goes down because it seems like you're just part of the "noise". it's even hard to find a time to call someone, because they are always in the middle of something or distracted driving while talking on the cell phone, etc...
it's even harder with local acquaintances, since everyone is mortgaged/car loaned up to the neck around here and are mostly worried if they are going to make their mortgage this month or not. so it takes real effort/energy to stay involved and try to grow friendships.
most of my true friendships over the years, have "just happened" without conscious effort. i.e. more of a meeting of the minds or birds of the feather, type thing. but that's even rarer now since people have less time to explore/know themselves. -
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Wed, April 18, 2007 - 7:49 AMI think it is becoming harder due to changes in personal priorities and the nature of society. Also, age makes it harder. By my strange definition, I've had close friends, but I don't have any right now :( I am very particular about potential friends. Also, my requirements about availability, dependability, and understanding lead to disappointment. Usually I begin to feel resentful about needing the interaction more than the other person, and maybe bored with things also, and become snarky. Along with attitudes most people criticize, that gets me kicked aside at some point.
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Tue, April 24, 2007 - 6:06 PMI never really had friends throughout my childhood until high school......(I always overthought friendships and idealized
friendships too much........as I observed other peoples' friendships, they always appeared somewhat superficial to me).
.....After high school I had acquaintances and maybe one or two close friends. At this moment I have one close friend= but even
with her I don't usually call her when I'm going through my emotional trials- The only people I have let get that close to me was the person
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Tue, April 24, 2007 - 6:38 PMits ok.....because we feel different we tend to not want anyone too close but in fact it is what we really need and want at times. I stopped being so scared .but Im still careful.
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Thu, July 12, 2007 - 11:12 PMTo foster close relationships, we all need to put in time and effort, As an INFP , I am passive in contacting my friends, despite the fact that my friends hold an important in my hearts. Maybe the reason is because I am easily satisfied with the way things are or just simply prefer to be alone.
However we all need some injection of fun and social contact and that is where I find that friendships with other extroverts are much easier to be sustained because the difference in personality brings sparks to the friendship. So when I meet people of a cheerful personality, i try to open up a bit to the possibility of friendship.
I think if any of INFPs have difficulty in maintaing friendships or gaining new friends, what they need may be to consider the possibility of other types as friends and learn not to be intimidated. -
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 4:11 PMA few. I desire lots friends and am animated in group situations, but seem to act more like a hermit. -
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Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:06 AMI have some very close friends, not many, but through my "stages" of life I always seem to have at least one person I can connect strongly to. Others a more generalised friendship...I can tell you also they are either extrovert, very artistic and/or creative type people. I don't feel I deliberately seek these people out, we just sort of strike up conversation and it quickly builds from there.
I also am able to remember very early childhood, 18 months of age, onwards, heaps and heaps of stuff, happenings, pets, conversations, weather, houses, events...etc.
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 9:00 AMNope, no close friends here really. I have a couple, but I don't really bug them when I have a problem. I just kind of deal with it and move on.
I have had a few close friends throughout my life, but you know...friends come and go. I seem to get back-stabbed pretty frequently :p Ah well! -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 9:22 AMWow! I never really thought about this too much, but I am the same way.
I am usually the person that my few close friends unload on. I don't really have close friends to rely on for my personal unloading. My wife is the only person I can truly talk to.
A strange thing has been happening. I have just recently been developing a good friendship with someone who unloads a lot on me but is also helpful with my problems. It's more of me relating similar problems to her own problems. She is the only one I can trust, though. Others have been back-stabbing types.
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Tue, January 15, 2008 - 2:00 AMI have a few close friends (maybe half a dozen) that I rely on. Interestingly enough I would say that ALL of them were initiated by my friend or through a third party not me. In addition to being passive in that sense, I'm usually very selective in who I let be my friend though I have many acquintances.
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 9:12 PMHi all. It is great to hear from like minded people. I have always been a loner ,when i was 4-5 years old i would hike into the "diggins"alone and catch fish.I had a friend then but he got on my nerves at times( the town was population 30,and he was the only kid my age)so ididnt invite him to come along ever.To this day I still hike ,bike and explore alone. I think I would like a friend to share with but,I tried that a few months ago,but the experience was not "Pure" .Beauty appears to me much easier when I am alone,and there is so much beauty out there.Any how take care. Love Lloyd -
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Tue, March 18, 2008 - 11:19 PMWow... I should have looked here sooner... This is exactly what I have been struggling with for the past couple of weeks... I was even thinking of posting it up in my Blog and asking some advice... funny that...
I have a couple of people that are close to my heart... But only one or two real friends... (And I find that it bothers me more than it used to.) At one point I had many acquaintances and chose to keep things superficial, And that is okay for some things... (Like the people that I would take a class with or know on a professional level.) But really, I think that I would be much happier to have a fair amount of lower level friends and one or two really close friends. (Lower level meaning the kinds of friends that have your phone number, come to your home for dinner parties, would pick you up if you were really stranded, and knew how you took your coffee... Close friends would know the real inner you...)
I find that after my choices in the past I am afraid to make new friends, of either kind. (I have a criminal restraining order against my ex... So I have not made the best choices in character in the past...) After moving around and being on the go constantly for the past three and a half years I am now at a cross roads of actually settling down again. But HOW does one decide who to let in and how far to let them in when you do? Who gets the phone number? Who can know where you live? Who do you trust with your baggage? And if nothing else, how do you know if someone is trustworthy or not... (Far too many crazy-girl/ backstabbing stories in my past... And it seems that I am not alone...)
What started the whole thing for me was my oldest friend (of two decades) stopped seeing *me*... she made an observation about me that was totally inaccurate, and then proceeded to tell me all about how I was. She was very sure of herself. And dead wrong. (And it is something that she and I went through together for a long time... So she really should have known, we talked about it to death too...) The flip side of that is I was seeing a guy for a bit that I discounted for not seeing *me*... He sent me an e-mail that was pleasantly eerie in it truth and insight as to the real me... And he hardly knew me at all... But somehow, this guy knew me better than my oldest friend...
How does that happen?
The other part that worries me is the time? work? maintenance? (I can't find the right word here) that real friendships take. I want to be a good friend. Not the flaky friend because I am happily hiding out under my rock... And finding others who are not driven screaming mad at my need to question everything is difficult. (Why is it that they don't get that question because I want knowledge and possibilities, not because I doubt... (Okay, maybe a little, but that is not the focus of the questions... I just want to know the all of a thing...)
But I am rambling here, and this is long... So I am ending... Save for one more question: Is it easier for you to bare it all to a stranger that you will likely never meet than those people that you know? (It is why I have enjoyed Tribe and the Interwebs so much...) Just wondering... -
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 11:58 AM>Is it easier for you to bare it all to a stranger that you will likely never meet than those people that you know?
For me definitely yes. When I was younger I wouldn't have thought so. I would have thought that such exchanges were meaningless because they were anonomous and with people who didn't know me. But in telling interested strangers about myself, thinking that I'd never meet them so in that case what I revealed about myself didn't matter, I inadvertantly created meaningful friendships. I met someone on tribe that way who actually traveled a thousand miles to see me. It is a lesson in openness I am still trying to integrate into my "real" life.
I don't have a lot of close friends and never have had. I am shy, reserved and it takes a long time for me to really feel comfortable revealing myself. I have one friendship of twenty-three years, and a couple new ones I am working on that I hope in time will deepen. I tend to be attracted to people who are distant themselves so it makes it more challenging. And I have to work on accepting this trait in others and adjusting my expecations, just as I have to accept it in myself.
I am overwhelmed by bubbly extroverted types, though I admire them, enjoy their company in moderation, and need more people like this in my life. It's just that a little contact goes a long way with me. One meaningful conversation with someone I love and respect in which we both feel heard, safe, accepted and understood can sustain me for weeks. I've never been able to reconcile my need for solitude and my strong desire for a romantic relationship. Either its too much or too little with me and most people just can't handle that and I don't blame them!
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 10:43 AMI had a 'friend' who turned out to hold very negative, not-so-accurate judgments of me. Obviously we aren't as similar as I thought. I keep thinking it's J types who are prone to that, but I don't see much evidence that he is one of those.
If someone reminds me of me in many ways, that's what makes me seek friendship. (So I almost never seek friendship.) If it's not in person, sometimes I will open up quickly about weird stuff, maybe too quickly. Okay, Internet more than phone. The more I sense an immediate, negative reaction, the more I shut down.
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 10:08 PMI'm an INFP too and personally, I have since very young always had very close friendships. To this day I feel I can count about 12 or 13 people among friends as close as siblings-4 in particular. You sort of sounded like you might be doubting whether or not you could make a close friend and that this might be connected with being an INFP? Did I read that right or no? If I did read it right, I just want to say, personally, I think we INFPs make really beautiful, usually lifelong friends to others, esp once we feel comfortable with someone. I feel very cherished in return by my closest friends for who I am. I have had very few "bad friend" experiences and I think that in part it is because INFPs tend to be very intuitive and sensitive. The qualities that separate INFPs from other types are ones I wouldn't trade for anything, even if it does mean that I don't connect as easily to as many people at times.
Sometimes I meet INFPs (not often, of course, because if I'm correct, we are the rarest type of the bunch!), who are so extraverted and I'm amazed when to learn they are INFPs! I am curious what you see as the connection between not having close friends and being an INFP. -
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 10:19 PMI meant to add just that I think that there can be so many reasons why close friends have never been made - and none of them are because someone isn't capable of creating a great friendship for the first time even if that is at 80 years old! . Sometimes it is as simple as where someone lives, and there literally not being a whole lot of choices that are appealing, and sometimes, or at least from my experience or bias, it stems deeper to a difficulty maybe in attaching to others, feeling like it can't be done in a safe way, because maybe the earliest attachments that someone lived through were genuinely unsafe, even horrible, and then that template or blueprint is something that is carried inside years later, even though it far from serves one anymore. There is an interesting book I read once called Becoming Attached: How Our Earliest Relationships Shape Our Capacity To Love.' I think they do shape it, but I also don't think they need to determine them at the same time. Easier said than done though, I know...but I do wish for you the joy of a close friend if that is what you are longing for.
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 11:02 PMNot anymore.
There's a saying: Friends will help you move. Real friends will help you move a body.
I have a couple of dozen people I would call friends. I see them on a regular basis, have them over for dinner and I help them out when they need it.
I don't really have any close friends. I'm too selfish with my time especially as a I get older.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 11:50 AMI'm kind of in the same boat. I used to feel like a social failure because I don't have that many close friends. I know lots of people and I'm friendly with them. THey'd probably help me out if I needed it and I'd do the same for them. But close? No. Most people don't really get who I am and if I'm not understood, how could I consider someone close? I sometimes feel lonely, but that's more of a function of people not understanding me rather than not actually having people around all the time. I think most people would find it surprising that I do feel lonely since my outward persona is positive, social and friendly. But that's just because...they don't get me!! tee hee hee! Anyway, as I get older, I am just more comfortable with me being me and having quality friends, not a large quantity. -
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Tue, March 25, 2008 - 11:29 AMnope, not counting my husband that is. there are a couple of people who i can confide in and quite a few acquaintances on a superficial level. i just don't seem to click with many people i guess and don't feel that it's necessary to pursue frienships with those i don't click with (although i did try to do this unsuccessfully for a large part of my life) at the moment i feel that trying to be a personality contortionist in order to fit in is way more trouble than it's worth...and can be quite painful too :-)
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